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;;  What CP/M does.
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;; From comp.os.com 28 MAR 2007
;; Thread:: Wanted: 1802 CP/M (or, PL/M 1802)
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>HAND, 
>   Tarkin 


Hi Tarken, 

Thanks. 

My arguement is that while we can do it, does it make sense?   To copy 
CP/M archetecture to a CPU where page 0 is reserved or where program 
sizes that fit the 8080/z80 model are too big for other CPU models is 
a project for the exercise rather than developing on OS that exploits 
a new CPUs capabilities.   Soon as you go from CP/M80 to some CP/M-xx 
that is not 8080 the discussion revolves around file transfer not 
running the basic 8080 code on something that would crash if it tried. 

Could CP/M be written for a 1802, sure.     I know of someone that 
took the 68000 version (written in C) and ported it to a VAX.    So 
yes it could be done..   

What does CP/M do:  It can: 

TYPE a file, 
ERAse it, 
show a disk DIRectory, 
REName a file, 
SAVE a snapshot of ram starting at TPA start to disk file, 
and execute a program that is 8080/z80 based starting at nominal TPA 
start address (usually 100H for 8080/z80). 

Anything beyond this is an application program that must load and run 
at TPA start address (nominal cp/m versions 100H).  This includes: 

DDT, ASM, LOAD, ED, STAT, PIP and about 20,000 programs written for 
CP/M on 8080/z80.   

The 8086 version is similar but it will not RUN a system floppy from 
my kaypro 4/84.  the library is also far smaller for CP/M-86, and much 
of it is source ported from CP/M-80 that takes advantage of the 8086 
being very similar to 8080.  But a 8086 cannot run DDT from a CP/M 80 
system disk (without an emulator or V20 cpu). 

One thing I'd learned early on (pre-1979) is that CP/M has meaning 
ONLY on 8080 and derivitive processors.   To  be explicit, it can be 
ported to anything but, only 8080 and later derived CPUs can actually 
run the library of CP/M program and third party application binaries 
(ignoring emulators/SIMs).   So the only reason to "port" CP/M to any 
other non-8080 family CPU is to have access to the filesystem to 
transfer NON-EXECUTABLE sources, data files or text.  That is useful 
and tools like RTCPM are out there for that  reason.   It's far easier 
to do something that runs natively on a given CP/U and OS that allows 
access to the CP/M file system for transfer.  This was widely done. 
After all once you have application source code, the API (CP/M BDOS 
calls and BIOS calls) and a filesystem emulation the rest of CP/M is 
logically unimportant and the source code level.  This also has been 
done many times as both widely known examples like various SIMs and 
uniquely done one off projects. 

There are few OSs that actually span a different CPU archetectures 
and the examples that come to mind are: 

CP/M 8080/z80/Z180/NSC800 family, 68000 and Z8000 also 8086(and later) 
were developed by DRI offically.  I'd point out the 68k and Z8000 
versions are almost unknown  but they exist. 

VMS runs on both VAX (32bit) and Alpha(64bit). 

Unix or unix flavored OSs run on VAX, Alpha, PDP-11, PDP-7, PCs, MIPS, 
ARM, 68k, powerPC  and many others.  Unix or it's clones are by far 
the most ported to anything. 

I'm sure there are others but they are notable by there obscurity. 

Allison